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Wil van der Aalst

Process mining pioneer and academic

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From Pools to Pinkpop to Process Mining: Wrapping Up BPM360 Season 3 in Style

 In this sizzling summer finale of BPM360 – Covering Every Angle, Caspar and Russell take a reflective and witty journey through the highlights of Season 3. What began with pool-cleaning confessions and festival weather banter quickly turned into a deep dive into process thinking, change facilitation, and agentic AI.  🧩 Key Takeaways from Season 3:  • Human-Centric BPM with Mirko Kloppenburg: Empathy, trust, and process models as cultural drivers—on the road and in the boardroom. • Academic Legends: From the origin of process mining with Wil van der Aalst to enterprise architecture with Prof. Scheruhn, this season honoured the foundational thinkers. • Cut the Crap: Roland Woldt helped us slice through BPM noise with sharp insights on architecture and transformation habits. • Facilitating Change: Stefan Hauenschild and Gary Cox reminded us that no process survives without people—change starts with empathy and ends in action. • Underrated Truths: Iris Beerepoot brought attention to the “gray zone” of undocumented processes—especially in healthcare—while Russell and Caspar tackled agentic AI, Lego-based modelling metaphors, and why some process hierarchies just don’t make sense. • Community & Events: With reflections from the Automation Summit in Split and a peek behind the curtain of BPM conferences, the season underscored the value of authentic practitioner dialogue. 🎁 Bonus: A surprise giveaway of Roland Woldt’s signed book “Successful Architecture Implementation” – for those bold enough to shape the next season! 🔍 Call to Action Have ideas for Season 4? A dream guest? A fresh angle? Or a critique on whether we’re really covering every angle? Email us at: questions@bpm360podcast.com Or comment on our Season 3 finale post on LinkedIn – and win a signed copy of Roland’s book!   We hope you enjoy our BPM Podcast. Subscribe and stay tuned for more. Please send us your comments and questions to questions@bpm360podcast.com (mailto:questions@bpm360podcast.com)

Process Mining Pioneer Wil van der Aalst on the Future of BPM: Object-Centric Models, AI Synergy,...

In this episode of BPM360: Covering Every Angle, Caspar, Russell, and Prof. Wil van der Aalst engage in a deep dive into the evolution of business process management (BPM), process mining, and the intersection of data and processes. From Wil’s early academic journey to his groundbreaking work in object-centric process mining, this conversation explores the challenges, misconceptions, and future trends in BPM and AI-driven process intelligence.   🔑 Key Discussion Topics & Takeaways  1️⃣ From Academia to Industry: Wil’s Journey to Process Mining  2️⃣ The Data vs. Process Debate: Breaking the Silos  3️⃣ The Flaws of BPMN & Traditional Workflow Modeling  • BPMN and Process Modeling Are Oversimplifications  • Why Workflow Management Systems Failed 4️⃣ Object-Centric Process Mining: The Next Evolution  • The Problem with Case-Centric BPM • Object-Centric Models Solve This Limitation 5️⃣ Process Mining’s Future: AI, Dynamic Process Views & Business Intelligence  • Static Models vs. Dynamic Views • AI + Process Mining = The Next Leap • Hybrid Intelligence – The Future of Workflows 6️⃣ The Real Roadblocks to Process Automation & AI-Driven BPM  • The Over-Reliance on Standardization • The 80/20 Rule in BPM Why Self-Driving Organizations Are Still a Dream:  • Unlike AI in self-driving cars, organizations lack extensive, structured training data, making full automation difficult.  • AI can’t replace human-driven process adaptation—at least not yet.   🎯 Final Thought: The Paradigm Shift in BPM  Wil van der Aalst challenges long-standing assumptions in BPM, advocating for a move beyond static process models to dynamic, data-driven process intelligence. His insights pave the way for object-centric, AI-augmented process mining as the next frontier in BPM.  🚀 Key Takeaway:  The future of BPM isn’t about defining processes first—it’s about uncovering how work truly happens and adapting processes dynamically based on real-world data. We hope you enjoy our BPM Podcast. Subscribe and stay tuned for more. Please send us your comments and questions to questions@bpm360podcast.com (mailto:questions@bpm360podcast.com)